I was wondering if I should do the same. I borrowed Tobira from a library and I read the first reading and at the third or fourth sentence and this was what I wanted to do. So to those who started Tobira straight from Genki, did you find it hard and frustrating at first and then got better? How did you use Tobira, did you supplement it with other materials. For the Kanzen people.
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I was wondering if I should do the same. I borrowed Tobira from a library and I read the first reading and at the third or fourth sentence and this was what I wanted to do. So to those who started Tobira straight from Genki, did you find it hard and frustrating at first and then got better? How did you use Tobira, did you supplement it with other materials. For the Kanzen people. What is it basically, is it also like a textbook.
I heard Listening, Grammar, and Reading are all different books. Please tell me more. I hate Tobira lost all interest after that ramen chapter. I just went with the Sou Matome and Kanzen route. Can you use it to study grammar whether you want to JLPT or not? Personally went tobira which I supplemented the crap out of it but I do that anyways. After that I went through N2 and N1. Love them both to pieces. Yes there are several different books because this is geared towards the JLPT. So for each level there are 5: vocabularly, grammar, reading, kanji, listening.
The exercise are drills to prepare you for JLPT. Do you need them all if your main aim is grammar? Supplementing with all the free crap online helps too.
Personally feel like Kanzen has more breadth but sou matome is cuter imo. White rabbit japan has samples of a few pages so you can see for yourself. Kanzen Master vs. Sou matome. Personal preferance is everything and you gotta find what works for you good luck mate. Good idea. Wanikani sounds good. I think the Satori Reader anki vocab also does good.
Tons of reading! Satori Reader!!! Also bought this book called Japanese Graded Readers. It was a level a little bit high for me LOL. I love Tobira. I was able to get through the first several chapter without too much trouble, and then it slowly got a bit harder. In a way, Tobira is almost more like a reader than a textbook in that the training wheel are definitely off. But I said almost, because it does still have a grammar section, a conversation section, and the readings are carefully constructed to build on each other.
For example, once a grammar point or vocabulary is introduced in an earlier article it is often in the later parts of the book. I had no idea what asdfsa is. Which then made me think of tnetennba. I have Tobira but am not using it at the moment cause I am travelling :D.
For me it is a decent textbook. It also has a decent amount of really useful vocabulary you can learn from it. If you use their online resources you can even get some okayisch listening out of it. The difficulty and usefullness of the Grammar points at least in the earlier chapters i did varies greatly. That being said if you have specific things you want to work on it might be better to just get a Sou-matome or a Kansen master.
These books are VERY dense and honestly sometimes bore me to death. Whatever I do, I like to be able to look up at least two different grammar explanations. It worked great for N3 for me so I plan to stick with it even if some of the grammar in Tobira is only review and pretty easy.
Like all the others have said. Find your own preffred way to use the materials you have. Also take a look at the TRY! They offer a great overview over what you need to pass each JLPT level for a pretty cheap price. I found these videos to be much more enjoyable to any of the material provided in Genki. I'm confused. Kanzen or Tobira? Japanese Language Resources. How did you use Tobira, did you supplement it with other materials For the Kanzen people.
My Tobira is going to arrive in Tuesday and I plan to turn the delivery man away. I hate Tobira lost all interest after that ramen chapter I just went with the Sou Matome and Kanzen route. Be sure to combine grammar study with actual reading though! Haha dude just pick one and go with it. Somebody would bring covfefe into this!!!
Tobira: Gateway to Advanced Japanese (Learning through Content and Multimedia)
Japanese Highlights. Elementary 1. Elementary 2. Intermediate 1. Intermediate 2. For Beginners vol. Textbook Workbook.
Tobira Gateway to Advanced Japanese Main Textbook, 905 g
Greetings everybody! The book has 15 chapters. My photos of the contents page turned out a bit crappy and unclear, so I will just list the topics here instead:. The book also has 17 sections dedicated to language notes and 10 notes on culture. You can see photos of these further on in the post. As you can see, the book covers a diverse range of topics.